Igniting Imagination: Leadership Ministry
Summer Soul Tending with Joe Stabile: Trust in God’s Lead

Summer Soul Tending with Joe Stabile: Trust in God’s Lead

August 11, 2022

Joe Stabile started centering prayer at age 14. If you’ve ever wondered how a lifetime of centering prayer shapes a person, listen to this conversation with Joe. Throughout his life, Joe has had a constant posture of discernment and a deep trust in where God is leading. Joe is so rooted in the Spirit; listening to him, being around him, is like jumping into a cold pool of water on a hot summer day. In this soul-refreshing conversation, you’ll hear:

 

  • Joe’s story of his life with God and his deep trust in God that has led him on an interesting, unexpected, and awesome life journey (to say the least!) (04:53)
  • The Seven Classical Disciplines and which ones feel particularly important right now (17:00)
  • The definition of ‘spiritual practice’ that made us go ‘wow!’ (21:32)
  • Advice for leaders in the church who are facing stress and burnout (27:36)

 

QUOTES

  • “90% of centering prayer is about your intention. What is your intention when you sit for this 20 minutes? What’s your intention? And your intention is to be totally open to God. Those six words: to be totally open to God. ” -Joe Stabile [25:27]
  • “We can choose any of the spiritual practices or disciplines and find times to incorporate them into our lives and allow them to move us forward. Going back for me, going back always to contemplative prayer or centering prayer. Everybody can find 20 minutes everyday to just stop and do centering prayer.” -Joe Stabile [33:02]

 

About Joe Stabile

Rev. Joe Stabile is a United Methodist Church pastor as well as Co-Founder and Animator of Life in the Trinity Ministry, in Dallas, Texas. He has served in vocational ministry for more than forty years, with combined experience in local church pastoral ministry, spiritual direction, retreat leadership, pastoral care and mentoring. In addition to serving as Associate Pastor at First UMC Dallas, Joe leads the Contemplative Cohort at Life in the Trinity Ministry.

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

For more information about the Contemplative Cohort Joe leads at Life in the Trinity Ministry, visit their website here.

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

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Summer Soul Tending with Danielle Shroyer: Be a Soul Ninja

Summer Soul Tending with Danielle Shroyer: Be a Soul Ninja

July 28, 2022

Danielle Shroyer’s curiosity about the spiritual path took an unexpected turn in 2018. This founder of the emerging church movement and deeply faithful Christian leader took the path East, towards the wisdom and practices of the Eastern traditions. Her blog, Be a Soul Ninja, chronicles her experiences engaging in different Eastern religious thoughts and practices. So what does it mean to Be a Soul Ninja? In this conversation, we discuss:

 

  • Why Danielle is a ‘hot mess’ at meditating and still names meditation as the practice that has helped her to grow the most in her faith (6:30)
  • The difference between meditation and centering prayer and why Danielle does an extra day of meditation each week (10:55)
  • How to start meditating (14:04)
  • What it means to “Be a Soul Ninja” and why being a ninja necessarily involves being in community with others (19:17)
  • What would it look like to spiritually direct a whole community? (24:47)
  • What is spiritual direction and why it’s important for clergy (27:40)
  • How her blog “Be a Soul Ninja” got started after a rejected book proposal, her approach to writing the blog and an excerpt from a blog post (31:53)

 

QUOTES

  • “All of that practice, I think what it does, is help me just be with myself in the reality of who I am. And I think that is incredibly important for leaders to do, because I just have to see myself exactly as I am. All the good stuff. All the bad stuff. All the stuff that’s extra boring and not worth conversation on either side of good or bad. And I think that helps me sorta operate from a more centered place, because there’s just no hiding from yourself if you sit and meditate in your own thoughts everyday.” -Danielle Shroyer [09:43]
  • “Really the goal in meditation is not to stop thinking. It’s just not to attach to your thoughts.” -Danielle Shroyer [17:36]

 

About Danielle Shroyer

Danielle spent over a decade in pastoral leadership and was a founding member of the emerging church movement. She speaks often across the country on issues of theology, faith, culture, and story, and blogs at beasoulninja.com.  Danielle is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place; Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lord’s Prayer in the Holy Land; and The Boundary Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise.

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

Find out more about today’s guest, Danielle Shroyer, including information about Spiritual Direction, on her website http://www.beasoulninja.com. You can also sign up for her weekly blogs to be delivered to your inbox.

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

Subscribe to our Leadership Ministry emails here. We send emails about each episode and include additional related resources related to the episode’s topic. We know your inbox is inundated these days, we aim to send you content that is inspiring, innovative, and impactful for your life and ministry.

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Living the Questions with Shannon Hopkins

Living the Questions with Shannon Hopkins

May 19, 2022

Shannon Hopkins has been asking, “God, what is the church you are building today?” for decades–and she’s been living that question. Shannon’s pursuit of new forms of Christian community inspired her to move from Texas to London where she has continued to build an incredible network of friends and colleagues who are living the questions, too. Through her organization RootedGood, Shannon is bringing spiritual entrepreneurs and innovators together to support one another and discern what it means to do the Gospel-inspired work that transforms the world today. In this conversation, we get to ask the one who has been living the questions to answer some questions such as: what have you learned since you’ve been playing in the sandbox, experimenting with new forms of Christian community? Shannon’s insights about the church today and her inspiring personal story of faith will leave you filled with hope and perhaps saying (as we said at the conclusion of the conversation): Glory be!

 

QUOTES

  • “If we don’t look at training and sustainability like new economic models, we’re not going to see a movement of God that transforms the church or the world.” -Shannon Hopkins [11:24]
  • “We were all created to do good work. And if we really truly believe that, then when we meet people, then I want to know, ‘Well, what’s the good work? What’s the good work God created you to do? And how can I fuel that? And how can I accelerate that?’” -Shannon Hopkins [32:45]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:55] What has inspired the hosts about this class
  • [02:08] About Shannon Hopkins
  • [06:14] How she was formed
  • [12:38] Texas to London
  • [22:35] What she brings into her ministry today
  • [25:41] The courage to break out of the mold
  • [29:27] Extreme networking and collaborations
  • [33:02] What is giving her hope
  • [41:47] Rapid fire questions
  • [47:13] A blessing
  • [48:33] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

For more information about RootedGood’s resources and to access the Mycelium Network to connect with other leaders, visit their website here.

Listen to Shannon Hopkins’ previous episode on Igniting Imagination here.

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Shannon Hopkins Bio

Shannon Hopkins is an extreme networker and social entrepreneur living in East London. Her passion for community and individual transformation has launched or influenced the formation of fifteen campaigns, projects, and organizations — and trained over 200 social entrepreneurs. In 2008, Shannon was awarded the Women of the UN and UK’s Annual Woman of Peace Award for a campaign called The Truth isn’t Sexy that addressed the demand side of human trafficking.

A Texas native, in 2004 Shannon moved to London and founded Matryoshka Haus, which was part incubator, part community, part training organization. In 2019 Matryoshka Haus launched 3 new initiatives, including Rooted Good, where Shannon is co-founder and Lead Cultivator. RootedGood empowers social impact organizations and leaders to make good in the world through tools and games that help implement design thinking, produce creative ideas, launch new ventures and so much more.

The Parish is My World with Coté Soerens

The Parish is My World with Coté Soerens

May 12, 2022

Coté Soerens has made her neighborhood in South Park, Seattle her world. She and her husband Tim moved their family into the under-resourced neighborhood with a deep desire to discover God’s dreams for the community and participate in helping those dreams come to fruition alongside their neighbors. Coté started a coffee shop, Resistencia Coffee, that has become a third space for neighbors to gather, to build relationships with one another and to discern next steps towards making their neighborhood thrive. When you listen to Coté tell her story and the story of South Park, you’ll hear how the Spirit has worked again and again, inspiring people to dream dreams and see visions and make connections that has ultimately made the seemingly impossible possible. Faith can move mountains – and, it turns out, highways! We can’t wait for you to hear what God has done through Coté’s love for–and deep commitment to–her neighbors and her neighborhood.

 

QUOTES

  • “My journey, I think, has been one of trying to weave together what does the gospel look like in the public sphere.” -Coté Soerens [12:30]
  • “Let’s live a life that is conducive to catching the right wave.” -Coté Soerens [27:12]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [01:08] About Coté Soerens
  • [04:15] A little bit of a problem
  • [10:35] What’s the future of the church?
  • [16:22] Planting a church in South Park
  • [23:45] Where her ideas emerge from
  • [27:35] Why stay connected to the church
  • [33:15] What breaks her heart and gives her life
  • [43:59] Rapid questions
  • [47:36] A blessing
  • [49:04] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

Cultivate South Park is “Connecting Neighbors and their Gifts to Co Create a thriving and equitable South Park.” Find out more on their website.

Learn more about Resistencia Coffee in Seattle, Washington at their website.

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You are invited to attend a virtual event honoring the 2022 Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award recipients. Earlier this year, four extraordinary leaders received a surprising letter from our organization. Without their knowledge, each leader had been nominated and selected to receive the second annual Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award. We would be honored if you would join us to celebrate them at a virtual event on Sunday, May 22 at 5 pm CT / 6 pm ET. RSVP and find out more about the Locke Award at award.wesleyaninvestive.org. Expect to be inspired by their stories and filled with hope for the future of the church’s witness! (45 minute virtual event, register today!)

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

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Coté Soerens Bio

Originally from Chile, Coté has made Seattle her home, where she lives with her husband Tim and their sons.

She has served as the founding executive director of Puentes, an immigrant-led organization mobilizing mental health resources to support families affected by immigration policies. Coté is a founding partner of Resistencia Coffee, a neighborhood coffee shop in the heart of South Park. 

She is also the co-founder of Cultivate South Park, a non-profit that lends infrastructure to neighborhood community development projects such as the Urban Fresh Food Collective, Reconnect South Park, and the South Park Arts and Culture Collective.

The Soul of Reconciliation with David Bailey

The Soul of Reconciliation with David Bailey

May 5, 2022

Arrabon means “a foretaste of the kingdom.” This conversation with David Bailey is full of Arrabon! David describes the significance of the numbers 8 and 2008 in his life. From an early age, David saw the benefits and challenges of cultivating a diverse community where everyone can thrive. His passion for God and scripture, together with his love of music and vision for reconciled communities led him to start Arrabon. Arrabon, like David, takes the long view of reconciliation, walking alongside congregations and organizations to facilitate conversation and curriculum that leads to both healing and justice. Although this topic perhaps feels heavy and even overwhelming at times, David’s joyful approach and hopeful vision is pure grace and just what is needed for such a time as this. 

 

QUOTES

  • “You can’t have justice without reconciliation. You can’t have reconciliation without justice.” -David Bailey [10:14]
  • “Let’s not complain about what we see was going wrong in curse of darkness. What does it look like if we be the light?” -David Bailey [24:28]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [01:16] About David Bailey
  • [03:11] Eight and 2008
  • [09:32] About Arrabon
  • [14:48] What we need to get through
  • [21:37] You have to practice being a Christian
  • [25:44] Negotiating anti-blackness in his work
  • [33:47] Repentance as a verb
  • [38:12] Rapid fire questions
  • [45:36] A blessing
  • [47:00] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

Learn more about David Bailey’s ministry at Arrabon by visiting their website here. View David’s TEDx Talk from 2015 here.

RSVP for the Locke Leader Virtual Event
You are invited to attend a virtual event honoring the 2022 Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award recipients. Earlier this year, four extraordinary leaders received a surprising letter from our organization. Without their knowledge, each leader had been nominated and selected to receive the second annual Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award. We would be honored if you would join us to celebrate them at a virtual event on Sunday, May 22 at 5 pm CT / 6 pm ET. RSVP and find out more about the Locke Award at award.wesleyaninvestive.org. Expect to be inspired by their stories and filled with hope for the future of the church’s witness! (45 minute virtual event, register today!)

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

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David Bailey Bio

David Bailey believes that the Church should lead by example in cross-cultural engagement and reconciliation. He’s the founder and executive director of Arrabon, a ministry that cultivates Christian communities to pursue healing and reconciliation in a racially divided world. David is an active speaker, consultant, and strategist for many national organizations about cultural intelligence and culture-making. He is the co-author of the Race, Class, and the Kingdom of God Study Series. David was named by Christianity Today as one of “The Twenty Most Creative Christians We Know”. He serves as a teaching elder at East End Fellowship. David and his wife, Joy, live in Richmond, Virginia.

Creating Healing Spaces through Social Enterprise with Kit Evans-Ford

Creating Healing Spaces through Social Enterprise with Kit Evans-Ford

April 28, 2022

Dr. Kit Evans-Ford’s passion for providing safe spaces for survivors of domestic violence and sexual violence is deeply personal. Kit’s grandmother, Argrow, is the namesake for her social enterprise Argrow’s House of Healing and Hope, a bath and body social enterprise that employs female survivors of domestic violence and sexual violence. Kit shares how her family story and her own life experiences led her to discern her life’s purpose and learn how to start a social enterprise. This compelling conversation has a thread of grace that inspires with transparency and vulnerability and a great reminder that whatever we’re facing in life, we don’t do it alone.

 

Note: There are themes of violence and sexual abuse in this interview. If those are triggering topics for you, please take care of yourself and skip this episode.

 

QUOTES

  • “But ultimately, what I do and why I do what I do is deeply rooted and connected to the women in my family… but also from a place of deep personal pain for me that I know that God has used to do good in the world.” -Kit Evans-Ford [19:02]
  • “It’s ok to think outside of the box. Everybody’s path doesn’t look the same, but all the work that we do is grounded in the love of God and Jesus Christ.” -Kit Evans-Ford [46:48]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [01:36] About Kit Evans-Ford
  • [03:05] What stood out in this conversation
  • [05:48] What led Kit’s to where she is
  • [09:59] Joining the Peace Corp
  • [16:17] Accepting her call to ministry
  • [21:11] Take a deep breath
  • [23:03] Becoming a spokesperson at a young age
  • [27:49] The connection between trauma and call
  • [32:21] Doing it together as community
  • [34:49] Safe spaces for healing
  • [43:18] It’s ok to step outside of the box
  • [47:57] Be open to understanding
  • [51:16] The essence of Wesleyans
  • [53:00] A blessing
  • [55:23s] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

This episode references domestic violence, physical violence, and attempted sexual violence. Please skip this episode if these topics are triggering for you. For resources related to trauma, visit the work of Bessel van der Kolk, MD. Here is another site full of resources related to trauma.

RSVP for the Locke Leader Virtual Event
You are invited to attend a virtual event honoring the 2022 Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award recipients. Earlier this year, four extraordinary leaders received a surprising letter from our organization. Without their knowledge, each leader had been nominated and selected to receive the second annual Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award. We would be honored if you would join us to celebrate them at a virtual event on Sunday, May 22 at 5 pm CT / 6 pm ET. RSVP and find out more about the Locke Award at award.wesleyaninvestive.org. Expect to be inspired by their stories and filled with hope for the future of the church’s witness! (45 minute virtual event, register today!)

Visit Argrow’s House website and support this amazing social enterprise! Argrow’s House is a safe space where free services are offered daily for women healing from violence and abuse in the greater Quad Cities area. 

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

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Kit Evans-Ford Bio

Dr. Kit Evans Ford is a national trainer, spiritual director, and professor. She is passionate about nonviolence, God, and serving others. She has been a trainer and activist for 14 years working relentlessly in the areas of nonviolence education and assisting people in healing from violence and abuse. Kit is an Adjunct Professor in the Department of Theology at St. Ambrose University.  She is the author of 101 Testimonies of Hope: Life Stories to Encourage Your Faith in God and A Children’s Book On Bishop Richard Allen:  A Nonviolent Journey.  She is also certified in spiritual direction and is the founder of Argrow’s House of Healing and Hope in Davenport, Iowa. Argrow’s House is a safe space where free services are offered daily for women healing from violence and abuse in the greater Quad Cities area. Argrow’s House is also a successful social enterprise where women healing from violence and abuse create beautiful bath products that provide a living wage for themselves in a safe space that celebrates who they are.

Brian McLaren on Becoming a New Kind of Christian and New Kind of Church

Brian McLaren on Becoming a New Kind of Christian and New Kind of Church

April 21, 2022

In these five episodes of Season 5, we’ll be meeting stunning spiritual entrepreneurs who are making a profound impact as they follow God’s call on their lives. They are the recipients of the 2022 Locke Innovative Leader Award. 

To help us set the stage for these conversations, we begin with Brian McLaren! In book after book (his newest book Do I Stay Christian? comes out in May… we talk about it!), with startling clarity, he lays bare the deeply troubling and the fundamentally beautiful aspects of the church and what it means to be the Body of Christ in the world. Being human, being Christian, is messy and imperfect. Christ, have mercy. And still, God is good. And the Holy Spirit is at work in the world. Our conversation is as challenging as it is hopeful. May it spark new conversations, renewed hope, and new imagination for what is possible.

 

QUOTES

  • “You realize for many people Christianity is defined by adherence to a set of beliefs. You can be a racist. You can be a bigot. You can be an abuser, but you’re still an orthodox Christian because of beliefs. So it just raises this question, what does this word even mean?” -Brian McLaren [19:20]
  • “Don’t imitate. Innovate.” -Brian McLaren [34:43]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:45] Co-host Matt Russell
  • [01:47] About the Locke Innovative Leader Award
  • [04:21] About Brian McLaren
  • [10:00] Brian’s faith journey
  • [16:42] Defining the word, Christian
  • [22:14] What it is to be a new kind of Christian
  • [31:01] The role of leaders and spiritual entrepreneurs
  • [40:39] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

Brian McLaren’s newest book Do I Stay Christian? A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned, is coming out on May 24th but can be preordered now here.

RSVP for the Locke Leader Virtual Event
You are invited to attend a virtual event honoring the 2022 Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award recipients. Earlier this year, four extraordinary leaders received a surprising letter from our organization. Without their knowledge, each leader had been nominated and selected to receive the second annual Tom Locke Innovative Leader Award. We would be honored if you would join us to celebrate them at a virtual event on Sunday, May 22 at 5 pm CT / 6 pm ET. RSVP and find out more about the Locke Award at award.wesleyaninvestive.org. Expect to be inspired by their stories and filled with hope for the future of the church’s witness! (45 minute virtual event, register today!)

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

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If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts / iTunes?

 

Brian McLaren Bio

Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a faculty member of  The Living School and podcaster with Learning How to See, which are part of the Center for Action and Contemplation. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and is a co-host of Southern Lights. His newest books are Faith After Doubt released in January 2021, and his next release, Do I Stay Christian is coming out in May and can be preordered now.

Igniting Imagination Season 5 Trailer

Igniting Imagination Season 5 Trailer

April 19, 2022

Season 5 of Igniting Imagination is coming soon! Host Lisa Greenwood and co-host Matt Russell talk about spiritual entrepreneurship and innovative ministry with author, activist, and public theologian Brian McLaren and our four 2022 Locke Innovative Leaders. Listen to this short trailer for a glimpse of our conversations with courageous leaders sharing their powerful, inspiring stories. If you like our podcast, please share your favorite episodes with friends and colleagues and leave us a review. Thanks for listening!

Prophetic Imagination in a Parking Lot with Mandy McDow

Prophetic Imagination in a Parking Lot with Mandy McDow

March 17, 2022

In our final episode for the season, Mandy McDow, pastor of Los Angeles First UMC, shares the story of LA First who razed their building in 2002. Yep. No building. That reality forces a posture of constant discernment: God, what is the difference you would have us make in this neighborhood in this season? Theirs is not a tidy, perfect story. It’s messy and real and very much in process. We hope it inspires you as it has us! Wow!

 

QUOTES

  • “That’s the first barrier for entry to understanding how God loves you. The way the church behaves is the way people perceive that God behaves.” -Mandy McDow [12:02]
  • “I think every congregation has the capacity to adapt. It’s just a matter of when you decide to do it. Do you do it in crisis? Or do you do it so that you’re not in crisis?” -Mandy McDow [19:09]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [02:12] What to listen for in the conversation with Mandy
  • [03:47] Meet Mandy McDow
  • [04:46] This history of LA First
  • [12:13] How they got to the parking lot
  • [15:13] How the DNA is showing up now
  • [19:27] Inviting congregation into imagination
  • [25:09] LA First in 10 years
  • [27:24] Distinguish between fan and follower
  • [35:23] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

Visit LA First’s website here

Read Lisa Greenwood’s monograph about God’s Mixed Ecology: The Changing Spiritual Landscape here.

New Feature: Transcripts for this Season’s Episodes

We will have transcripts for each of our episodes this season. Visit our website to download this week’s transcript. We hope these additional resources will help you share these conversations with your friends, colleagues, and leadership teams to spark the spirit within you, your organization, and “ignite imagination!”

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

Subscribe to our Leadership Ministry emails here.

If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts / iTunes?

 

Mandy McDow’s Bio

Rev. Mandy McDow grew up in Knoxville, Tennessee and attended Oglethorpe University in Atlanta, Georgia. She attended Princeton Theological Seminary for her Master of Divinity and is currently pursuing doctoral work at Candler School of Theology. Mandy has served congregations in Atlanta, Laguna Beach, and in 2017 accepted the appointment to Los Angeles First UMC with one catch and you’ll hear about it in the interview: the church bulldozed their building in 2001. Mandy has a black belt in Taekwondo, she is an aspiring musician, still has a passion for sweet tea, and is the proud mother of three children.

Power and Abundance with Mike Mather

Power and Abundance with Mike Mather

March 10, 2022

“What does ‘Distributing Power’ look like for a congregation?” is a frequent question we get about our fourth adaptive muscle. Now we can say: listen to this interview with Mike Mather! Mike helps us make the connection between distributing power and abundance.

When Mike and his congregation started actually living out their beliefs that everyone (both inside and outside of the church) has gifts, it changed their perspective–and their church–for the better. They began to look for the gifts their neighbors possessed instead of their needs. They shifted how they perceived their role in the community from being bringers of all good things to being connectors who bring people’s gifts together for the good of the neighborhood. Mike is a powerful storyteller, we can't wait for you to hear this conversation! May his stories and lessons stick with you and inspire you to discover the gifts and power already at work in your neighbors and in your neighborhood.

 

QUOTES

  • “She didn’t need training. She needed people who saw she had gifts and power. That was when things really shifted for me.” -Mike Mather [12:58]
  • “I would say what we often talked about it as was ‘How do we join the power that God has present in the lives of our neighbors?’” -Mike Mather [30:19]

 

TIMESTAMPS

  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:55] What it means to distribute power
  • [04:41] Meet Mike Mather
  • [05:29] What Mike hopes people get out of his book
  • [08:01] The pivot in his life
  • [13:15] How that impacted how his church did ministry
  • [20:12] The impact to Mike as a leader
  • [29:22] It changed their job descriptions
  • [30:38] Point to where the power is at work
  • [32:38] Where he met resistance and/or obstacles
  • [43:31] Outro

 

RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS

Read Mike Mather’s book Having Nothing, Possessing Everything for more insights that inspire and equip leaders with very practical ideas for moving beyond buildings and into the streets.

Read Lisa Greenwood’s monograph about God’s Mixed Ecology: The Changing Spiritual Landscape here.

New Feature: Transcripts for this Season’s Episodes

We will have transcripts for each of our episodes this season. Visit our website to download this week’s transcript. We hope these additional resources will help you share these conversations with your friends, colleagues, and leadership teams to spark the spirit within you, your organization, and “ignite imagination!”

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

Subscribe to our Leadership Ministry emails here.

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Mike Mather’s Bio:

​Mi​ke Mather is the pastor at First United Methodist in Boulder, Colorado. For many years, Mike was the pastor at Broadway United Methodist Church in Indianapolis, Indiana. Before that he served as pastor of another church named Broadway in South Bend, Indiana. Mike is also on the faculty of the Asset-Based Community Development Institute at DePaul University. Mike is the author of Having Nothing, Possessing Everything: Finding Abundant Communities in Unexpected Places. As a preacher-consultant-storyteller, he speaks all over the country about community development and urban ministry.

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